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Subject: scuttlebut about you guys on the Polish list
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:45:56 +0100
from a Polish music list on Yahoo:
an amusing exchange of comments re the FM, and one guy adds a comment about
the new Hecker:
my translations below
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:07:29 +0100
> From: "Jacek Staniszewski"
> Subject: Re: farmersi za friko !
= Farmers for free!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gusstaff"
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [terra] farmersi za friko !
> > From: ""*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.¯`·.¸(¯`·.¸"
> > >
> > > -> Farmers Manual: MEGO 777_rla (DVD)
> > >
> > > Format: DVD-Video/ROM (Duallayer DVD9, NTSC, Region free)
> > > Website: http://rla.web.fm
> > > License: Copyleft
> > > Total running time: 03:21:38:03 (d:h:m:s)
> > > website --> ( CZYLI ZA DARMO )
> > owszem - za darmo - ale dla tych, ktorzy chca sciagac z sieci..., a jesli
> > ktos woli miec to na calkiem ladnie wydanym DVD, to juz musi wydac troche
> > kasy - to DVD juz jest chyba w sklepie terra.pl...., wiec pewnie niedlugo
> > Krzysztof oglosi....
> > pozdro
> > jon
= of course, for free -- but for people who want to get it off the Net.
and if someone prefers to have the whole nicely produced DVD, they have to
spend a bit of money. I think the DVD is already available from terra.pl,
so Krzysztof will soon announce it.
> gustawie och gustawie::
> no pewnie ze dvd ladnie wydane w koncu mego zawsze sie stara
> zeby bylo git grafix, ale nie kazdy korzysta z dvd...
> rla.web.fm rzadzi
> mam PRAWIE wszystko, troche sie juz w tym wszystkim pogubilem
> jest pare giga materialu (3 dni i 21 godzin sluchania???!)
> - zdjecia, mp3, mpegi, skany artykulow itd...
> jesli to wrzucili na site to chyba nie dlatego ze chca unikac tych
> mp3owych zlodziei...
= Gustav oh Gustav: Of course the DVD is nicely produced -- mego always
tries to have top grafix, but not everyone uses DVD.
= rla.web.fm rules!
= I have ALMOST everything and have gotten a bit lost in all of it. there's
a couple of gigabytes of material (3 days 21 hrs of listening??!?), with
pictures, mp3s, mpegs, scans of articles, &c. If they put it all up on the
site, I don't think it's because they want to avoid all those disgusting mp3
> wlasnie zajrzalem na mego - pakiecik farmers rzeczywiscie wyglada super
> przypomina mi mail artowe pismo atlas z poczatku lat 90tych, jesli ktos ma
> to niewatpliwie warto nabyc - to juz kawalek historii.
= I was just looking at mego -- the fm package looks really super
= it reminds me of the mail-art magazine "atlas" from the early 90s
= if you have DVD it's definitely worth getting. it's already history. [not
clear to me whether he's referring to atlas or to FM here]
> a tak na marginesie, ciekaw jestem czy masz juz na skladzie nowy 12" winyl
> (pandamonium 9/stocha acid)...wlasnie go odsluchuje - pierwszy trak
> halasliwy w sposob bardziej natarczywy niz na duzej plycie heckera, dwa
> polamanych wojennych digitaliow plus 1 zestaw elektro bekniec i pierdniec
> plus kilka petli...bardzo przyjemnie!
= and by the way, I'm curious whether you already have Hecker's new 12-inch
vinyl in your collection
= I myself am listening to it right now -- the first track is definitely
noisy in a more insistent way [or maybe "in-your-face way"] than on Hecker's
full-length release, and there's two tracks of fragmented war-like
digitalia, plus 1 set of electro blurps and blaps, plus a few loops.
Subject: Re: farmersi za friko [czyli miec czy sluchac?]!
przy takich ilosciach, jak w przypadku FM zastanawiam sie, czy te
kilkadziesiat godzin materialu jest tak wybitne, ze warte czasu
spedzonego na uwaznym sluchaniu i sciaganiu? czy nastapila
jakakolwiek selekcja, czy wrzucali online wszystko co kiedykolwiek
nagrali? tak sie pytam, bo nawet tam nie chce mi sie wchodzic.
= with amounts like this, like for example FM, I wonder whether a few dozen
hours of material is that remarkable that it's worth the time downloading
and listening to it? Did they make some sort of selection, or did they put
everything online that they ever recorded? I'm asking because I don't even
want to go to the site. Why?
[snip snip, some narcissistic blather about the amount of time this guy
chooses to spend listening to music vs. other things in his life]
pomysl FM to raczej akcja dla hardkorowych maniakow, bo boje sie, ze
w tym wypadku od przybytku moze rozbolec glowa. co bedzie, kiedy
kazdy wykonawca se postawi serwer i wrzuci 100 giga swojej wybitnej
muzyki ze wszystkich koncertow, wszystkie swoje sample, zdjecia,
itd?? im bardziej plodny, tym wiecej. evan parker 300 giga, frank
zappa (albo jego syn) 500 giga a merzbow 800 giga. to wszystko
doprowadzi nieuchronnie do jeszcze wiekszej neurozy wszystkich
= I think that FM's idea is a campaign for hardcore maniacs, because I'm
afraid that in this case it could blow your head apart. What's it going to
be like when every performer puts 100 giga of his own music from all
concerts, all of his samples, photographs, etc.??? The more fertile, the
better. Evan Parker 300 giga, frank zappa or his son, 500 giga, and merzbow
800 gigabytes. This is going to lead to an even greater neurosis on the
part of die-hard collectors....
[3 more postings on the list continue the discussion, but it's not
specifically about FM or Hecker so I'm not including it.]
- Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:58:04 -0000
Subject: mego777 - vital weekly
FARMERS MANUAL - RLA (DVD by Mego)
Of course I wasn't made for these times, all these fancy machines,
gadgets and toys. Internet, computers, SACD, DVD: as long as it comes
with a very clear instruction of how it works, I might be able to get
it working. My natural enemies in life are of course multi-media
pranksters Farmers Manual, who offer their entire live recordings
archive on one DVD (that is, as far it was saved). When I put this
DVD in my computer and to start to play I just got a fifteen minute
some movie of some guys smashing a wall. Nothing else. Not the
promised live material by Farmers Manual. No menu to choose from. The
DVD file on the computer showed a hmtl linked so I went there. But it
seems kinda silly to buy a DVD for music, which then reverts to a
website. So I asked Mego and one has to open the folder that says
'rom' and drop everything in say a Mpeg player, I tunes or whatever.
I picked one file and that is a concert from 1995 at the phonotaktik
festival and that lasted just over an hour. In the 'rom' folder there
are no less then 51 sub folders and each is a concert, so one can
easily there is more music in there then in the entire Merzbox and
Throbbing Gristle 24 hour box together (the total length of this DVD
is 3 days, 21 hours, 38 minutes and 3 seconds). I hope you will
excuse me for not having heard all of them before setting myself to
write this review. Information comes here as a massive overload
(right so, of course in this day and age of information overload - in
that respect Farmers Manual do whatever is expected of them). I can't
imagine anyone playing all of this is a row, but I can imagine people
returning to this every once in a while and play the odd concert. A
lot (if not all) is also on the Farmers Manual website and luckily
there newly live recordings are added, so if this DVD is simply not
enough one can of course start downloading...
And oh yes, the music itself, you may wonder? Farmers Manual has been
of the more interesting bands to work solely with computers, and each
concert was an unique jam of the band (sometimes four members,
sometimes less) but unlike so many newer laptop bands, they
incorporate (techno, dub) rhythms, synths etc. They might be staying
much closer to 'real' music, as opposed to the all improvising laptop
bands and that makes a three day listen session all the more
endurable. Even when there is a weak spot during a concert... (FdW?)
i just wanted to ask you...why the number 777 on your mego release?
(i love that number)...
do you study qabalah?
> i just love that number .
me too :) i'm just staring at it :) (i have it on my nice candle (made of
concrete) places next to monitor:)
> what does the qabalah tell you about it?
hm...here's good page about it. but it's useless if you don't know anything
about qabalah / if you don't know what all that crap represents in
but it's a very nice number. one of the most interesting. something like
666...but different ;)))
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